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		<title>Zooomr Mark III launches with some hiccups</title>
		<link>http://inphotos.org/2007/06/03/zooomr-mark-iii-launches-with-some-hiccups/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 19:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Donncha O Caoimh</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[After what seems like a long week of false starts and unfortunate hardware melt downs the new Zooomr launched this weekend. I haven&#8217;t logged in &#8230;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After what seems like a long week of false starts and unfortunate hardware melt downs the new <a href="http://zooomr.com/">Zooomr</a> launched <a href="http://blog.zooomr.com/2007/06/02/zooomr-mark-iii-is-born/">this weekend</a>. I haven&#8217;t logged in yet but I&#8217;m looking forward to exploring all the new features Kristopher has been working on.</p>
<p>I do have a bone to pick with them. They are still not caching images properly! Run any Zooomr hosted image through the Cacheability Engine to test it and you&#8217;ll get a report like the <a href="http://www.ircache.net/cgi-bin/cacheability.py?query=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.zooomr.com%2Fimages%2F2403982_586b90d879.jpg&amp;descend=on">following</a>:<br />
<blockquote>http://static.zooomr.com/images/2403982_586b90d879.jpg<br />
Expires   	1 day from now   (Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:04:14 GMT)<br />
Cache-Control   	max-age=86400<br />
Last-Modified   	2 hr ago  (Sun, 03 Jun 2007 17:04:14 GMT) <strong>validation returned same object</strong><br />
ETag   	  -<br />
Content-Length  	65.4K (66953)<br />
Server  	lighttpd/1.4.15 </p></blockquote>
<p>It makes no sense for the image to be sent again. Your browser should be allowed to cache the image. Besides the caching issue, the image is still slow to load and it&#8217;s only 67k.</p>
<p>Way back in December I asked, <a href="http://inphotos.org/is-zooomr-slow-for-you-too/">Is Zooomr slow for you too?</a> and was heartened when Kristopher Tate <a href="http://inphotos.org/is-zooomr-slow-for-you-too/#comment-29318">said</a> he was working on a fix. Hopefully the fix is part of an as-yet-unreleased part of Mark III. Without it, using Zooomr for image hosting is really not recommended. Please fix the caching. I really want to like Zooomr!</p>
<p>Now, if only <a href="http://scobleizer.com/2007/05/29/an-evangelism-opportunity/">Robert</a> would evangelize fixing their image hosting I&#8217;d be a happy camper!</p>
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		<title>This old skool Flickr user doesn&#8217;t care</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Donncha O Caoimh</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[From: FlickrHQ
Subject: Update for Old Skool members
Dear Old Skool Account-Holding Flickr Member,
On March 15th we&#8217;ll be discontinuing the old email-based Flickr sign in system. From &#8230;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>From: FlickrHQ<br />
Subject: Update for Old Skool members</p>
<p>Dear Old Skool Account-Holding Flickr Member,</p>
<p>On March 15th we&#8217;ll be discontinuing the old email-based Flickr sign in system. From that point on, everyone will have to use a Yahoo! ID to sign in to Flickr. </p></blockquote>
<p>It seems that everyone is up in arms about <a href="http://www.flickr.com/news.gne#limits">recent changes</a> at Flickr:</p>
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<li> Flickr and Yahoo! accounts must be merged into a Yahoo! login. If you have <a href="http://thomashawk.com/2007/01/flickrs-news-today-sucks.html">multiple Flickr account</a> then you&#8217;re logging in and out of Flickr all the time, now do it with Yahoo! Surely you do most of your Flickr work in one account anyway, so why not make that the one your main Yahoo! account?</li>
<li> Tags and Contacts are going to be limited. I see that this would affect a tiny minority of the userbase on Flickr, unfortunately for Flickr it&#8217;s likely to be the most active (and vocal?) membership. I also feel for Thomas with his <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomashawk/96968793/">Where I&#8217;ve Been Lately</a> image because a lot of those tags will be removed but does anyone else have more than 75 legitimate tags on a photo? I&#8217;m sure I only have 15 at most on mine. Limiting contacts will hurt the most prolific users of the site such as Thomas Hawk, but <a href="http://flickr.com/forums/help/32686/#reply163737">others</a> are probably just <a href="http://flickr.com/forums/help/32686/#reply163759">spamming</a> the system.</li>
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<p>Yes, the changes to tags and contacts will hurt a tiny minority but for almost everyone on the site it won&#8217;t make any difference. Yes, the change to using Yahoo! IDs will mean Yahoo knows about your photos, but if they know about your email and stock portfolio already what are you worried about? They&#8217;ve got more than enough demograpic data to go on to market to you!</p>
<p>Unfortunately I can&#8217;t recommend <a href="http://zooomr.com/">Zooomr</a> either because their <a href="http://inphotos.org/is-zooomr-slow-for-you-too/">service is so slow</a> &#8211; images take an age to download, and when they do download, they aren&#8217;t cached by the browser. It&#8217;s really frustrating using Zooomr.com when it&#8217;s so slow as it has so much potential and the people behind it are so smart and full of ideas! Fix the slow connection, caching and add a &#8220;blog by email&#8221; feature and I&#8217;d be over to Zooomr faster than you can say &#8220;Flickr sucks!&#8221;</p>
<p>There are plenty of <a href="http://thomashawk.com/2007/01/theres-some-mighty-pissed-off-flickr.html">pissed off</a> Flickr users, but I&#8217;m not one of them. Have a nice day!</p>
<p>Update: Treasa is <a href="http://www.dancingshades.org/?p=138">as upset</a> as I am! Oh Lordy!</p>
<p>Update 2: Richard <a href="http://jack-of-all-tradez.blogspot.com/2007/01/flickr-changes-much-ado-about-nothing.html">isnt worried</a> either. Definitely a storm in a teacup.</p>
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		<title>Is Zooomr slow for you too?</title>
		<link>http://inphotos.org/2006/12/14/is-zooomr-slow-for-you-too/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Donncha O Caoimh</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the things stopping me hugging and embracing Zooomr is how slow it is for me to view images off their servers. Take for &#8230;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things stopping me hugging and embracing <a href="http://zoomr.com">Zooomr</a> is how slow it is for me to view images off their servers. Take for example the <a href="http://static.zooomr.com/images/265853_8ec115b6db.jpg">image</a> on <a href="http://thomashawk.com/2006/12/shot-to-moon.html">this post</a> on Thomas Hawk&#8217;s blog. There are two things wrong with it:</p>
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<li> It&#8217;s 241k, but it downloads on my fast shiny broadband connection like it&#8217;s ten times bigger. Brings me back to the good old days of dialup and a modem connection. Remember how that was? Oh, there&#8217;s the connection made, first bit of the image, oh oh, a small bit more, half way there, yawn, zzzzzz. I&#8217;ve fallen asleep.</li>
<li> It&#8217;s not cachable. Every time you reload that page the whole image has to download again. Go <a href="http://www.ircache.net/cgi-bin/cacheability.py?query=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.zooomr.com%2Fimages%2F265853_8ec115b6db.jpg&amp;descend=on">check out</a> what the cacheability engine thinks.<br />
<blockquote><p>    *</p>
<p>http://static.zooomr.com/images/265853_8ec115b6db.jpg</p>
<p>      Date   	Thu, 14 Dec 2006 09:22:30 GMT<br />
      Expires   	  -<br />
      Cache-Control   	  -<br />
      Last-Modified   	  -<br />
      ETag   	  -<br />
      Content-Length  	241.9K (247754)<br />
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<p>      This object will be considered stale, because it doesn&#8217;t have any freshness information assigned. It doesn&#8217;t have a validator present.
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<p>Compare that with the <a href="http://static.flickr.com/131/322052492_c728e66f9e_o.jpg">image</a> from my <a href="http://inphotos.org/i-look-good/">previous post</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>    *</p>
<p>http://static.flickr.com/131/322052492_c728e66f9e_o.jpg</p>
<p>      Date   	Thu, 14 Dec 2006 09:24:50 GMT<br />
      Expires   	  -<br />
      Cache-Control   	  -<br />
      Last-Modified   	2 min 28 sec ago  (Thu, 14 Dec 2006 09:22:22 GMT) validated<br />
      ETag   	  -<br />
      Content-Length  	127.2K (130220)<br />
      Server  	Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat)</p>
<p>      This object doesn&#8217;t have any explicit freshness information set, so a cache may use Last-Modified to determine how fresh it is with an adaptive TTL (at this time, it could be, depending on the adaptive percent used, considered fresh for: 29 sec (20%), 1 min 14 sec (50%), 2 min 28 sec (100%)). It can be validated with Last-Modified. The clock on this Web server appears to be set incorrectly; this can cause problems when calculating freshness.
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<p>Despite the problems reported above the image is cached by my browser and even with a force reload, it loads quicky.</li>
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<p> I&#8217;m not sure how to fix the first problem except by adding a faster pipe to the servers hosting the data or upgrading the hosting hardware, but the second problem is very easy to fix using eTags and better headers. There are numerous <a href="http://www.mnot.net/cache_docs/">tutorials</a> and even <a href="http://blog.rd2inc.com/archives/2004/12/29/cache_dynamic_images/">code examples</a> out <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=etag+cache+image">there</a>. Please, please, please look into it and make your images more cacheable! Your European neighbours will really appreciate it!</p>
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